SPORTS HIGHLIGHTS
The Al Engstrom rink falters after nine straight and loses to Kosteck and Stone
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PJante and Harvey help Canadiens down Rangers 5-1 in NHL contest.
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Burns   Lake  expecting  20   rinks   for  bonspiel starting tonight. (See Page 4.)
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Vol.   5; No.  29
PRINCE GEORGE,   BRITISH COLUMBIA,  FRIDAY,  FEBRUARY  10,  1961
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GOVERNMENT AT WORK
Gaglardi Says Future in Doubt
IJ.  A.  Caglard speech   in   the
By  JACK  WEBSTER CKLG, Nor^h Vancouver
VICTORIA  �   Highways  Minister delivered   his   "every-dog-has-his-day"
Legislature Thursday.
He invoked the deity a score of times and did everything except answer the specific charges levelled against him and his department.
But he did exhibit considerable nervousness about his own  future.
"They may get my seat," he said. "I don't know what my future holds," he added later. And again: "The result of all  this may change my  status and  my
future."
Premier Bennett was seen to wipe away furtively what may have passed for a tear when Phil, in his peroration, emoted, from a carefully prepared script: "I will walk the street in any city, any town, or any hamlet, with my head high." UNANSWERED
But he didn't answer the questions put to him specifically by Liberals Gordon Gibson and Allan Macfarlane, and CCFers Gordon Doweling and Alex Rlac-donald.
He didn't say whom he expected to pay $1,000 line and approximately $2,000 costs against him in Supreme and- Appeal Ccurls of B.C.
And he issued some very unwise challenges which are already being torn to pieces by those, like your reporter, who have followed the Gaglardi mess since it first broke in the courts.
His challenges were issued "to any   person   in   the    House,    in Canada, or the United Stales." AID DENIED
Sample: "It lias been stated by Gordon Gibson that I closeted myself with financial people and helped arrange a loan for a contractor who was in trouble. I at no time in my life, so help me God, ever lent myself or my presence to any such practise.
This was -in "answer" to Gib-aoir.c f.-hstrup Lhat, u'aiilardi mot in tl�� Georgia   Hotel  In Vancou-
ver November-December 1957, with Burton Lymburner, moneylender Burton Glazer. and there alter wrote a loiter on highways department stationary from his separate office in Kamloops which resulted in Lymburner .'-jetting a $50,000 loan to meet payrolls.
But Gaglardi himself Thursday produced the actual letter, dated Dec. 13, 1957. and maintained that loans obtained by Ly nib urn-er were actually obtained some months before � in September or October,   ID57.
It's just as well Gaglardi didn't bet any money because an affa-davit from the moneylender (Burton Glazer), dated .Jan. 5. 1.960, was accepted by both the Supreme Court and Court of Appeals.
In that affadavit Glazer (who testified on oath and Gaglardi did not) said lhat the $50,000 was given to Lymburner only because   of  Gaglardi's  letter.
The promissory note is dated Dec. 16, 1957, three days after Gaglari's letter was received.
Despite the evidence accepted by the courts and used as the basis for his wil/ul and knowing contempt, Gaglardi called on the Lord to SAvear that while he did meet the moneylender Glazer, in the company of Burton Lymburn-r>r.  never   at   any rlime   did   ho
(CoiUinuotl   on   Past*   5)
WILLISTON REPORTS
Pulp Study Set For B.C. Interior
DUNCAN NEIL, who Thursday was awarded the Canadian Humane Association's medal   for  bravery,  gets  along  famously with four-year-old Edmund Karbowski (with    glasses)    and    his  brother   Pliillj  p, 5,  Mr. Neil saved the boys'  lives lust February  when  fire  razed  a  bunkhous e at Giscome.    �Hal Yandervoort photo
Gaglardi Answers Critics With Charges of His Own
VICTORIA   K'lM Thursday disclaimed led  (o lu's conlempl  of cour lhat   a   Liberal   MLA   had   offered
�   Highways    Minister   Gaglardi responsibility lor the- actions thai conviction, and  implying money   to  unnamed
NO MAN IN SPACE, RUSSIAN REPORTS
MOSCOW (AT) � A leading Soviet scientist said today the Soviet Union's giant new sputnik had successfully accomplished its missions and would soon fall into the atmosphere  and  burn.
L. Sedov, a member of the Soviet   Academy   of   Sciences,
took mile p� Wi'slpm speculation about a passenger aboard the seven-ton satellite. Ho said it carried neither man nor an-imals.
He said the two main .yoals were to ^c' an object thai bi^ into orbit and to keep it in its planned orbit with exacting precision.
Medal Given Man Who Saved Two from Inferno
pinned   a   medal   on
Of    tllC   jTrtNlU-.st.    IlllllUilH' of   CuruKla.    \Vfnr   ll   � wuii letriuniate i>iiiie � r�i- performance nbuve ami beyond tho call nl' duly." And ihen I'rlnce fieiirge Alder-
\ii one awards
persons to discredit him.
The minister attacked North Vancouver Liberal Gordon <;il>-son early. He read ;i report of Giant Mascot Minos Ltd. which siiiil businesses in which (ho Liberal member held interests had in;nlo ;m $80,000 profit In ' eiyhL months uii ii loan of $200,-(KID.
"This  Is a  most   fantastic  fi- L,.     .'
nancial  deal, especially coming |j....._,, �
from ihr holier-than-thou Liberal member," said CJaglardl, referring i" criticisms CJlbsun had made  about   pipeline  financing,
"If ihr- premier could strike ihiii kind of :i jackpot," the minister rulded, "1 could build belter highways."
<;ihson itisus
Ciibson, a sl.N - fool two - Inch man w ho towers o\er the bliortcr (I'.i.ui.iiili, rose on ;i point n!' privilege, wroN*. IIiik: "I want to iHl that little man something.
Gibson sal silently Implied thai the I ,ihei was behind  bribes  U highways minister  occasionally  with   passing  I snoWflurries,    l.iule   change lomi)erature,   Lishi   winds.   I tnnif:lii  and   high   tomorrow  ai Prince    George,    Quosnel    an Smilhers, :.'() ami US,
ViS/WK (lloudy.  \\ iih  s ^hilling again Salurdaj Winds southeast .mil   high   Saturday   .. I'ralrie, 130 and !H).
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GJSCOME  (Staff)  � They Duncan Xcil Thursday night.
Some 50 persons gathered in ihc Legion hull at Giscome to p;iy honor Lo the man who, a your ago this month1, j)lunged into u hell of smoke and five to rescue two near-dead little bbj's.
ll was very qiilel in the hill] wlu-:i I'iilher O. He KeyzcTv ic;ui ti   iiiininjf   Li'Jlmlu   ii>   Dune  Nell.
Sitting In llif front row were two little boys, named Edmund and I'liilliji Karbuwski. Their hair was slicked, tlie crea.-e.s in
eir   trou.-cis   vvei'e   like   vuzut
ges and tlieir eyes wire luryc He.
l-'alher   lie   Kevv.cr i often, w ben v newspajiers.     \\r     en -ill'l'cit    of    llli behavior. 11 is the celebrate    tonight bravery  amount in
IMCKOK    .\< TIIIX1 "Thin   heroic   action
FOUR ARRESTED IN GUN THEFT
VERNON (CPI � Police Thursday night arrested four men after recovering 15 stcn guns and six automatic pistols stolen earlier in the day from the Vernori  Armories.
The men were charged with breaking and entering and theft and were to appear in court today. Police said the guns were recovered at the home of one of the men charged.
They were stolen in what army officials said was a well-planned raid by persons \\rho knew their way around firearms.
B.C. BUDGET
 Kneiiiark pinned the
t'ourl right i
You leave my name out <>i this, thai was i lu1 start of a business gamble,"
"I   may   bo   n   little   fellow," � Giiglardl shot buck, "but I'm not scared of any big fellow, and I'm not K(�inw to bo Intimidated by any bi� man."
Thai was the loudest outburst during the speech, although thero wcro Boveriil Interruptions jmd several hursts of desk thumping b> Sini;ii Credit niom< hern, As the minister sal dow n, Premlor Heniiett n>M-. pointed liltf finger at Gibson and shouted Hoincthiiig like "why don't you resign again?"
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briefly,   ujniuu. .
Dune Neil said. "I ippy to navo. had in have hpt'ii mi these   two   little
if this building, Ircn   were   trap-
ig heal so thai tlieii in  iminincnt  11 > u .i.. i hen, in ti � confusion   .
Gas Tax Boosted 3 Cents
VICTORIA    (CP)    �   An    increased gasoline tax and dip into evenue  surplus   was   called   for today  in   the   1961-62   provincial nidgel in which Premier-Finance Minister Bennett forecast record xpendilurcs  totalling  $339,96(5,-99,   an   increase   of   $8,84(5,000 over the previous fiscal year.
The tax boost is 3 cents a gallon >n gasoline and dicsel fuel and it expected lo put $3,000,000 into i.C.   coffers�the   biggest   factor n an estimated increase in cur-ent revenues of more than $19,-OO.UOO over last year. The lniclgcb .sj>ccc)i  rend  in  the jgislaturc this afternoon did not idieate exactly, however, where the revenue surplus to meet the required   $13,890,448   to   balance j revenues and expenditures would arise.
A year ago, the premier forecast a revenue surplus of only $7.2()().()0() at March 31, 1961. lie indicated today the surplus would be $15,000,000�meaning cither lhat revenues from the 1960-61 fiscal year are to be higher than forecast, which is unlikely, or that   the   estimated   $331,000,000
By Special Correspondent
VICTORIA � Legislative committee on forestry will investigate problems of economic utilization of logging und mill waste in the Interior and recommend legislation to assure a taw material supply with a minimum of interference with the established lumber industry.
Lands and Forests Minister Kay Williston said the move is designed to encourage establishment of the necessary pulp mills to utilize the raw material now wasted.
"The problem of Im proved waste utilization in the Interior is the challenge that confronts us today," he told the Legislature.
"How can we use this material with the resulting >enel'its of more jobs for more people, and more Ii versification in the final  products to be marketed?"
Within a  radius  of   100  miles I )!'  Prince  George  there  arc   16 sustained yield units with an al-owablc   annual   cut   for  sawluf
 104.l3riO.O00 cubic feet. There arc 261 established timber sale licensees.
"The harvest of wood volume could be doubled if there were a market for the material which is  suitable  for   the  manufacture
of pulp products." said Willis-ton. "The utilization of mill waste, logging waste, defective and small trees must become an economic reality if the Interior industry is to prosper." TWO CONCERNS
Williston said the committee's investigation would concern:
1.   Definition   of   a   pnlpwotxl
harvesting area within the boun-i should   toe   removed   under
daries of one or more sustained yield units.
2. The met hod of disposal of the pulpwood potential within the area defined.
It is assumed that firm commitments concerning plant construction and performance would be   required   and   that  any   con-
tract would contain a 21 year time clause. If more than one applicant could meet prescribed conditions the actual disposal of the raw material might be on a bonus bid basis. NEED BALANCE
Williston said it is true that established operators can look forward to a continuous sawlog production at the present rate of cutting, providing production from the area is in balance.
However in the removal of these sawlogs and in the manufacture of lumber there is a large volume of wood in the form of mill waste ami logging waste left behind.
"All this material can and our said
sustained   yield   program," the minister.
"When left behind it becomes a deterrent to the establishment cif new forests and a definite fire hazard, am! deprives the operators of additional revenue needed to keep competitive when lumber prices are so low.
Timber Sale Practices" To Get Broader Study
I>y Special Correspondent
VICTORIA � A legislative committee has decided lo widen the scope of its investigation oC limber sale practices In Williams Lake. Lac La Fiaehe and Nicola Lake public working circles to take in other over-committed areas ranging from Prince George to Vancouver  Island.
"We intend covering a lot more O.oiind this year," said  forestry
expenditures forecast a year ago   coinmitlcc  chairman  Cyril  Slid-
ford
which
VANCOUVK who said  he "lived lasl   winter," will Wednesday  If he lin jail    fur    mi unco  fruud,   l�tlnuin sentence was dofurro) after he u<\<\ the court hu aim starved to death laM winter.
has boon underspent.
Tho premier described the bud-gel as a continuance of his Soda] Credit "pay-as-you-go" policy, "which hcis eliminated entirely from our budgetary structure tho need to appropriate money for iloht interest and debt redemption charges."
Total revenue will be $326,- ' 076,151, compared with thr csth i mated $306,800,000 ill the previous year, with the largest single chunk coming from the live per cent sales tax.
Gas and fuel oil lax will bring $40,100,000, compared with $31,-7(io.()i)i) forecast for 1960-61. Education will ju'i the major portion (it the Increased expenditure but the total outlay is forecast al �80,045,482, a jump of $6,800,000. Highways department spending is in drop by $3,500,000 lo $81,-878,090.
Tho   U.C,   I'owor  Commission ami  the I'GE wont   Into  the  rod in;: the  lifiii) calendar year, Premlor  Bennett   said,   lie  .said j
(hi1   I'fiK  deficit   will   bo  SL'.iJlM,- ! 7H(i.   I'owor   commission   had   a deficit nl S_1H.!);jo.
(SC-Omincea). "There are  other areas are   not   covered   by   the  emergency  legislation  passed  last  .session and we want  to fully examine I he problems (here. OVER-COMMITTtil)
"The legislation enacted last year dealt with only those morions areas where the actual com-mitmcnl was 150 per cent or more of the annual allowable volume. Working circles in the Prince George and Vancouver Island anas are not that highl> committed but they are over committed nevertheless." The committee met  Thursday
and decided it would begin early I tracts   to  lot
next  week  by hearing a  report I licence areas,
from B.C. Forest Service officials
on the effect of the emergency
legislation. The report  will  be Riven  by
Lome F. Swannell. assistant chief
forester,  operations  branch,  and
Cy   Philips,   district   forester   at Kami oops.
Later, submissions will be made by the Prince Ceorsc Board of Trade and the Northern Interior Lumbermen's Association.
'�Anyone else who made submissions last year will again be welcome," said Slielford.
North Vancouver Liberal (ior-don Gibson startled yesterday's hearing by demanding thai the committee widen its terms of reference ami starl at the very base or forestry policy in B.C. BASE STUDY
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